Some people have been doing this so long that the internet itself grew up around them. Matthew Lush is one of those people.

Matthew — aka Gay God — has been a presence online for twenty two years. Before TikTok lives, before creator houses, before sponsorship managers and media training, he was on MySpace posting pictures of himself and his boyfriend and accidentally becoming one of the first openly gay voices on the internet. He came out at fourteen. He did it on camera. And he kept going even when the world made it very clear that some people would rather he didn't exist at all.

Some guests walk in and immediately make the room feel like it expanded. Sylvie Savage is one of those guests.

Sylvie is a trans woman, TikTok creator, relationship anarchist, and someone whose story does not move in a straight line — which, honestly, feels very on brand. It moves through Bible college, religious deconstruction, a marriage, three kids, a miscarriage, a bipolar diagnosis, leaving the church, realizing she was trans, and somehow landing in one of the most intentional, loving, and beautifully complicated lives you'll hear described on this podcast.

Some guests walk into the room and immediately make it feel different. Jo Del Carmen is one of those guests.

Jo is a queer Latinx author, TikTok storyteller, and the woman behind Women in Papercuts — a series of true sapphic short stories written with the kind of tension that makes you want to turn down the brightness, light a candle, and get in touch with yourself. She grew up in South Florida, spent seven years writing and performing music, got shoved out of the closet by her brother, and has since been turning twenty four real experiences into some of the most honest sapphic short fiction on the internet.

She fits right in.

Episode five of Tongue First starts exactly where you'd expect a Siren and Wendy solo episode to start — with a completely unrelated debate about whether lesbians prefer cats or dogs — and then takes about fifteen hard left turns before it's done.

This week it's just the two of them, plus producer K-Rock and Nakiah holding down the background with the kind of facial expressions that remind you why video podcasting exists.

Some conversations feel less like recording a podcast and more like staying up too late in a queer friend’s kitchen while the world outside feels a little too heavy.

This episode is one of those conversations.

This week on Tongue First, Siren and Wendy are joined by Meggers for one of the most emotionally honest, vulnerable, and unexpectedly funny episodes of the season so far.

By Episode 3, Tongue First fully settles into what the show actually is: queer late-night conversation with absolutely no ability to stay on topic — in the best possible way.

This episode dives headfirst into the weird emotional reality of living online while trying to remain a real person underneath it all. Siren and Wendy unpack parasocial relationships, livestream burnout, internet intimacy, creator culture, queer loneliness, polyamory, emotional boundaries, and what happens when thousands of people suddenly feel connected to your life in real time.

There’s something deeply queer about meeting someone on the internet, trauma bonding in a TikTok Live, and then suddenly finding yourself eating beignets together in New Orleans like you’ve known each other for ten years.

Episode 2 of Tongue First brings in the show’s first official guest: Jared from the Internet

Every podcast has a first episode. Naturally, ours immediately spiraled into flirting, emotional oversharing, queer identity discussions, sapphic tension, and at least one moment where we probably should have stopped talking — but absolutely did not.

Welcome to Tongue First.